by me, Kerry Burgess, 09/12/2025 08:51 AM
Before yesterday, never heard of that guy Charlie Kirk
Today, the local live-tv news has broadcast all morning details about his killing
Mainstream-media is full of it, too. Not reading any of it.
Thinking of it now only because of the local tv coverage
Looking closer because that is what I have done for over 20 years now
The results, so far, early in my research for this note, are consistent with my past discoveries
BECAUSE you asked, I have another theory to speculate. I do not know anything. I am watching their tv-broadcast of some guy walking across the rooftops and I am thinking to myself of another theory. My guess is he was lured there to be the person seen, as with other cases in the mainstream-media. It's that dim-wit that moronically had an AK-47 rifle barrel sticking through the fence of the golf-course that time a while back. So this guy in Utah was lured there, I am guessing, under the premise of simply being there clandestinely and he's thinking of what he *could* have done. Was he the actual shooter? Will he be prosecuted for that killing? Yes, absolutely.
My guess is person(s) out there somewhere is trying to make a political statement about "getting away with it". Presumably, the people investigating the criminal activity will see the obviousness when the activities of the alleged perpetrator are investigated.
Not sure yet how this new guy fits in - if at all - with my narrative around Stephen King's "The Stand"
I see the video and the terrain makes me somewhat nostalgic. I was in Provo, Utah, in year 2002 when I successfully completed the abbreviated Ironman Utah triathlon course, shortened to a duathlon because of sudden, explosive weather conditions when the swim start began in that disgusting lake they had us in that morning. Proven already as an amateur after-work long-distance endurance bicyclist, that was my first attempt at a full Ironman triathlon
I am thinking of that detail only because of my unfounded suspicion he was sent there specifically to that place on that specific calendar-day
Also, all that assumes it not all just one big hoax and Fake News perpetrated that day
Blade Runner (1982)
Quotes
Roy Batty: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain...
https://papersofprinceton.princeton.edu/princetonperiodicals/?a=d&d=Princetonian19511011-01.1.1&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------
From 10/11/1951 ( ) To 10/14/1993 ( ) is 15344 days
15344 = 7672 + 7672
From 11/2/1965 ( ) To 11/4/1986 ( ) is 7672 days
https://papersofprinceton.princeton.edu/princetonperiodicals/?a=d&d=Princetonian19721012-01.1.1&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------
"Homer Goes to College" - The Simpsons
Original airdate in N.A.: 14-Oct-93
(from internet transcript)
[ Opening scenes of the television series episode ]
It's another lazy day at the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant. Homer sits snoring at his desk, his old, faithful dog snoozing in a chair next to him. Lenny has craftily constructed a hammock for himself in another room.
In his sleep, Homer rests his head on the control panel in front of him -- directly on the "PLANT DESTRUCT: PLEASE DO NOT PUSH" button. The control room becomes awash in the red glow of emergency lights, and the automated female voice says, "Core meltdown in ten seconds...nine..." Homer's dog wakes up, hears the voice, and pulls the reset lever with his mouth. The voice announces, "Meltdown averted...good boy."
Mr. Burns, too, is asleep in his chair, its back to his wall of monitors. Yes, even the people on the monitors are asleep too. Smithers sleeps, curled up beside Burns' chair. His leg twitches, and he moans softly in his sleep.
Outside, in the parking lot, the Nuclear Inspection Van recreational vehicle pulls up. Three white hard-hatted, lab-jacketed inspectors jump out and press the buzzer at the entrance to the plant.
Agent 1: [presses the buzzer]
Burns: [awakening, over the intercom] Mmm...hmm...what? How dare you disturb me during nap time.
Agent 1: We're from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. This is a surprise test of worker competence.
Burns: There must be some mistake. We, er, we make cookies here: Mr. Burns' Olde-Fashioned Good-Time Extra-Chewy --
Agent 2: [to Agent 3] Get the axe.
Smithers and Burns watch from the window as the inspectors lead some plant employees into their vehicle.
Burns: The watchdog of public safety...is there any lower form of life?
Smithers: Don't worry sir, I rounded up our less gifted employees and led them into the basement.
[Shot of the basement with Homer and two other guys]
Bernie: Duh, Homer, why are we down here?
Homer: Aw, geez. I told you, Bernie: to guard the bee!
Man: But why?
Homer: Aw, you guys are pathetic. No wonder Smithers made me head bee-guy.
[Homer kicks the jar accidentally, smashing it, and the bee escapes]
The inspectors want to test Homer's competence next, but Smithers apologizes for him, saying, "He couldn't _bee_ here." Burns fobs them off with some excuse about Homer chairing a conference on nuclear fission in Geneva. Unfortunately, Homer jumps up through a manhole cover just then, exclaiming, "The bee bit my bottom!
From 12/10/1936 ( the Noble Prize in Physics awarded to Victor Hess ) To 11/21/1964 ( premiere USA TV series episode "The Outer Limits"::"The Inheritors - Part 1" ) is 10208 days
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 10/14/1993 ( ) is 10208 days
From 12/12/1930 ( from The Daily Princetonian publication, Princeton University: TALKIE DEMONSTRATION SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY ; Electrical Company to Show Educational Films for Faculty at 8:30 in Frick Chem. Lab. ) To 11/4/1986 ( as me, Kerry Burgess, my official enlisted US Navy documents includes: Date Completed - US Navy Fire Control Technician Class "A", Service School Command, Naval Training Center, Great Lakes, Illinois, - leading to permanent assignment until 1990 to CF-division, Missile Plot - guided-missiles Fire Control Computers Complex (UNIVAC digital-computers Mk152 Terrier System for, primarily, SM2-ER {Extended Range} Standard Missiles ordnance), USS Wainwright CG-28, US Navy, while enlisted paygrade E-5, designated Fire Controlman Petty Officer Second Class (FC2) ) is 20416 days
20416 = 10208 + 10208
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 10/14/1993 ( ) is 10208 days
From 11/4/1986 ( as me, Kerry Burgess, my official enlisted US Navy documents includes: Date Completed - US Navy Fire Control Technician Class "A", Service School Command, Naval Training Center, Great Lakes, Illinois, - leading to permanent assignment until 1990 to CF-division, Missile Plot - guided-missiles Fire Control Computers Complex (UNIVAC digital-computers Mk152 Terrier System for, primarily, SM2-ER {Extended Range} Standard Missiles ordnance), USS Wainwright CG-28, US Navy, while enlisted paygrade E-5, designated Fire Controlman Petty Officer Second Class (FC2) ) To 10/14/1993 ( ) is 2536 days
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 10/12/1972 ( premiere USA TV series "Jigsaw" ) is 2536 days
From 5/14/1992 ( the Intelsat 6 successful rescue during US space shuttle Endeavour orbiter vehicle mission STS-49 includes me Kerry Wayne Burgess the United States Marine Corps commissioned-officer and United States STS-49 pilot astronaut and my 1st official United States of America National Aeronautics and Space Administration orbital flight of 4 overall ) To 10/14/1993 ( ) is 518 days
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 4/4/1967 ( from The Daily Princetonian publication, Princeton University: Harvard Humanities Professor Jones To Lecture on 'Age of Energy in U.S.' - which cover "The Age of Energy in Nineteenth Century America." ) is 518 days
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0773645/
IMDb
The Simpsons
S5.E3
Homer Goes to College
Episode aired Oct 14, 1993
When a surprise inspection of the nuclear power plant reveals that Homer is not qualified to do his job, he is forced to go to college.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0615503/
IMDb
Jigsaw
S1.E1
Episode aired Oct 12, 1972
Lt. Frank Dain worked for the California State Police as a dogged investigator of missing persons cases. No one was better at piecing together clues and solving mysteries, as Dain's cases took him all over the Golden State.
James Wainwright as Lt. Frank Dain
https://papersofprinceton.princeton.edu/princetonperiodicals/?a=d&d=Princetonian19301212-01.1.2&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-------
Princeton University
Daily Princetonian, Volume 55, Number 155, 12 December 1930
TALKIE DEMONSTRATION SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY Electrical Company to Show Educational Films for Faculty at 8:30 in Frick Chem. Lab.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1936/ceremony-speech/
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1936/hess/facts/
"Homer Goes to College" [ The Simpsons ]
Original airdate in N.A.: 14-Oct-93
Fortunately, the pig's OK. Homer, the Dean, and the nerds watch as the pig is airlifted to safety, tied into a harness under a helicopter.
Dean: I'm sorry, boys, I've -- I've never expelled anyone before, but...that pig had some powerful friends.
Nixon: [bitterly] Oh, you'll pay. Don't think you won't pay!
"Homer Goes to College" The Simpsons
Original airdate in N.A.: 14-Oct-93
To meet some new friends, Homer takes Marge to the Freshman Mixer. Glancing around, Homer sees a bowl of punch, and decides to help is popularity.
Homer: [spiking the punch] Heh heh, I'll be a campus hero.
[Another student tastes the punch and spits it out]
Student: Attention, everyone: the punch has been spiked.
[Everyone gasps]
Don't worry. Your parents have been called and will be here to pick you up shortly!
[Everyone cheers]
Homer: Marge, someone squeezed all the life out of these kids. And unless movies and TV have lied to me, it's a crusty, bitter old Dean!
Dean: Hi there! Hello, I'm Dean Peterson, but you can call me Bobby. I just want you to know if you ever feel stressed out from studying or whatever, I'm always up for some hackey sack. Or, hey! If you just want to come by and jam, I used to be the bass player for the Pretenders. [plays a riff]
Homer: [bitterly] Boy, I can't wait to take some of the starch out of that stuffed shirt.
"Homer Goes to College" The Simpsons
Original airdate in N.A.: 14-Oct-93
The only recourse is to get the nerds back into college, thinks Homer, with a zany scheme of some sort. The nerds aren't sure about the "zany" idea, but Homer ignores them: "I got it! We're gonna fix it so you guys save the Dean's life!"
In the next scene, Homer is behind the wheel, driving with a determined look on his face. He checks his watch, seeing "4:59", and says, "Perfect." He fishtails around the corner.
The Dean is just leaving, closing the door on his way out. He whistles as he strolls down the path to the parking lot. The nerds are hiding behind a nearby bush.
Nerd 2: OK, guys: push him out of the way in exactly three seconds.
Nerd 1: Should we correct for wind resistance?
Nerd 3: Hmm, possibly. What do _you_ think?
[Homer hits the Dean with his car, and the Dean goes flying]
Nerd 1: Oh, my.
-- I hope he's insured, "Homer Goes to College"
In the Springfield General Hospital, Homer and the nerds stand beside the Dean's bed. Homer apologizes for the "running-you-over prank", and he admits that all the other pranks were his idea too. "I'm the one who should be expelled." The Dean is touched by Homer's honesty, and he wonders if perhaps he's been a bit of an ogre himself. "Yes you have," Homer confirms quietly.
The Dean magnanimously offers to readmit the nerds and to forget that the whole silly incident ever happened. Just then, Dr. Hibbert walks in with the Dean's prosthetic replacement hip. It breaks in his hands, so the Doctor jovially informs him he'll have to go easy on it.
On the first day of class, Homer sits at the back of the lecture hall. The lecturer is an older man in a white lab coat, and he speaks with a germanic accent. "I see a lot of new faces," he says, "but, you know the old saying: out with the old, in with the nucleus." Everyone laughs except Homer. When the lecturer drops his cue cards by mistake, Homer's mirth seems to know no bounds. None of the other students see what he finds so funny.
Back in Nuclear Physics 101, the professor explains a high-tech piece of equipment to the class.
Prof: This proton accelerator destabilizes the atom in this chamber here, then propels it --
Homer: Uh, excuse me, Professor Brainiac, but I worked in a nuclear power plant for ten years, and, uh, I think I know how a proton accelerator works.
Prof: Well, please, come down and show us.
Homer: All right, I will.
[Everyone abandons the glowing green building]
[Homer walks out, glowing green himself]
Homer: [to meltdown men] In there, guys.
Men: Thanks, Homer.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/after-issuing-last-warning-hamas-trump-eyes-gaza-deal-soon-2025-09-07/
Reuters
After issuing 'last warning' to Hamas, Trump eyes Gaza deal 'soon'
By Jeff Mason and Maayan Lubell
September 7, 20257:48 PM PDT
WASHINGTON/JERUSALEM, Sept 7 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday suggested a Gaza deal could come soon to secure the release of all the hostages held by Hamas, after earlier issuing what he called his "last warning" to the Palestinian militant group.
Trump, speaking to reporters after landing in the Washington area on Sunday evening following a brief trip to New York, said he had been discussing the issue on the plane.
"We're working on a solution that may be very good," he said. He declined to give further details. "You'll be hearing about it pretty soon. We're trying to get it ended, get the hostages back."
Earlier on Sunday, he warned Hamas to accept his terms of an agreement, without giving any specifics.
"The Israelis have accepted my Terms. It is time for Hamas to accept as well," Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. "I have warned Hamas about the consequences of not accepting. This is my last warning, there will not be another one!"
https://sos.nhsvc.com/1381709-2/
The Story of Service: CW4 Michael J. Durant, U.S. Army
Durant was captured by Somali militia and held as a prisoner of war for 11 days. He was beaten and interrogated but remained resilient until his release on October 14, 1993.
Continues from my previous reporting, the calendar-day 12/17/2020 was the scheduled debut of "The Stand" on CBS
From 5/7/1960 ( Soviet Union Premier Khrushchev announces details about the capture of the United States Central Intelligence Agency pilot Gary Powers ) To 6/22/2015 ( premiere USA TV series episode "The Whispers"::"Meltdown" ) is 20134 days
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 12/17/2020 ( ) is 20134 days
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-D-00cd8a14b5dbcc7c5df3337c8e862d39/pdf/GOVPUB-D-00cd8a14b5dbcc7c5df3337c8e862d39.pdf
https://www.nasa.gov/history/SP-4001/p1a.htm
1957
December 5
An announcement was made that an Advanced Research Projects Agency would be created in the Department of Defense to direct its space projects.
House Rpt. 67, 87th Cong., 1st Sess., p. 36.
Of my original-work code-pattern
Event Date variable: 10/14/1993
Search Date variable: 09/11/2001
Result
From 12/5/1957 ( ) To 10/14/1993 ( ) is 13097 days
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 9/11/2001 ( ) is 13097 days
From 10/14/1993 ( ) To 6/1/2015 ( premiere USA TV series "The Whispers"::series premiere "X Marks the Spot" ) is 7900 days
7900 = 3950 + 3950
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 8/26/1976 ( the first known human case of Zaire ebolavirus ) is 3950 days
From 11/15/1957 ( ) To 10/8/2013 ( ) is 20416 days
20416 = 10208 + 10208
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 10/14/1993 ( ) is 10208 days
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6135760/bio/
IMDb
Charlie Kirk
Biography
Born October 14, 1993 Arlington Heights, Illinois, USA
Died September 10, 2025 Utah Valley University Campus, Utah, USA (gunshot)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0571964/bio/
IMDb
Biography
Ray McKinnon
Born November 15, 1957 Adel, Georgia, USA
excerpt, Credits
Stephen King's "The Stand" (1994) as Charles Campion
IMDb
The Stand
The Plague
Quotes
[His dying lines, spoken to Stu Redman]
Charlie Campion: There was a man with us some of the time; he was a dark man. I was looking through the rear-view mirror and I'd see him just sitting there, grinning at me. I thought I could outrun him.
[He laughs, sickly]
Charlie Campion: You can't outrun the dark man.
by me, Kerry Burgess: Any "God" is mere superstition. You do not have an Imaginary Friend "up there" in the clouds. You do not have an Imaginary Friend that can hear your thoughts as you plead and beg with Him to not hurt you again. Do not believe the lies told to you by any clergy peddling their bunk. "Faith" is meaningless word that is merely their marketing-buzzword because they know you're gullible and naive and you cannot think for yourself and you stopped reading this after the first few words.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-intelligent-divorce/201310/the-religious-mind
Psychology Today
The Religious Mind
Finding a Faith that Makes Sense
Posted Oct 08, 2013
Mark Banschick M.D.
Do you believe in God, but wonder if you’re just fooling yourself?
You are not alone. Yet, you may still have a religious mind.
Religion began long ago, in distant memory. We find ritual objects in burial grounds and altars in prehistoric ruins. The ancients, without TV, a smart phone or Facebook, looked up at the stars every night, and saw meaning in the way the stars and planets moved. They felt their insignificance every day.
Death was easy…and yet life was a great blessing.
How Faith Began:
Fertility gods permeated the Fertile Crescent, from Babylon to Egypt, and beyond. People prayed for a good harvest. It was a matter of life and death. Rain meant the gods came through. Drought meant that they did not. Man, in turn, believed that if he pleased the gods, his belly would be full.
Faith entered history by way of the stomach.
Since ancient times our Western kind of religion has evolved. The Monotheistic faiths started by Abraham (whether mythic or real, he serves as the beginning of a new era), meant that there was one unifying God in the universe, not simply competing deities. Prior to Monotheism, gods where more like supernatural kings, with sovereignty based on location or tribe.
Now, with Monotheism there came a Unified Field Theory of faith - One God for the whole world.
The Church, Synagogue & Mosque:
Institutions rose to represent God and His word. The notion that God gives and God takes remained central, and as shamans evolved to clergy, the fact remains that the Church, Synagogue or Mosque saw its function as helping their flock entice the good from God, and avoid punishment.
The Church oversaw the invention of the hospital and some of the most sublime art and music ever created. It developed a system of faith that facilitated community and an awareness of the oppressed. There would be no Martin Luther King without his Church.
The Synagogue focused pious Jews on God’s word, and the Talmud created a moral and legal code that to this day, stands as a bedrock upon which civilization understands right and wrong. The Mosque transformed the Middle Ages with its preservation of ancient thinking and with advances in science and the arts. Algebra gets its name from Arabic. And, Rumi’s poetry continues to inspire hundreds of years after his death. These institutions have earned the right to be taken seriously, even in the modern world.
At their best, organized religion encourages love and community; at their worst, they revert back to tribal animosities, leaning toward my God is better than your God. There is a dark side to organized religion; a very dark side.
Kerry Burgess, November 18, 2016 5:05 pm
You *do not* have "Faith".
You have FALSE HOPE.
You're a slacker.
You want something easy you don't have to work at and that a used salesman promised you offers big rewards. Rewards you definitely do not deserve.
The Stand - complete edition, by Stephen King
(from internet transcript)
excerpt, Chapter 1
Hap hung up the phone. The Chevy’s driver was lying on the floor. “Ambulance will be here in ten minutes. Do you figure they’re—?” He jerked his thumb at the Chevy.
“They’re dead, okay.” Vic nodded. His lined face was yellow-pale, and he was sprinkling tobacco all over the floor as he tried to make one of his shitty-smelling cigarettes. “They’re the two deadest people I’ve ever seen.” He looked at Stu and Stu nodded, putting his hands in his pockets. He had the butterflies.
The man on the floor moaned thickly in his throat and they all looked down at him. After a moment, when it became obvious that the man was speaking or trying very hard to speak, Hap knelt beside him. It was, after all, his station.
Whatever had been wrong with the woman and child in the car was also wrong with this man. His nose was running freely, and his respiration had a peculiar undersea sound, a churning from somewhere in his chest. The flesh beneath his eyes was puffing, not black yet, but a bruised purple. His neck looked too thick, and the flesh had pushed up in a column to give him two extra chins. He was running a high fever; being close to him was like squatting on the edge of an open barbecue pit where good coals have been laid.
The Stand - complete edition, by Stephen King
excerpt, Chapter 26
It was a small-town, once-weekly West Virginia newspaper called the Durbin Call-Clarion, put out by a retired lawyer named James D. Hogliss, and its circulation figures had always been good because Hogliss had been a fiery defender of the miners’ right to organize in the late 1940s and in the 1950s, and because his anti-establishment editorials were always filled with hellfire and brimstone missiles aimed at the government hacks at every level, from town to federal.
Hogliss had a regular bunch of paperboys, but on this clear summer morning he took the papers around himself in his 1948 Cadillac, the big whitewall tires whispering up and down the streets of Durbin… and the streets were painfully empty. The papers were piled on the Cadillac’s seats and in its trunk. It was the wrong day for the Call-Clarion to come out, but the paper was only one page of large type set inside a black border. The word at the top proclaimed EXTRA, the first extra edition Hogliss had put out since 1980, when the Ladybird mine had exploded, entombing forty miners for all time.
The headline read: GOV’T FORCES TRY TO CONCEAL PLAGUE OUTBREAK!
Beneath: “Special to the Call-Clarion by James D. Hogliss.”
Below that: It has been revealed to this reporter by a reliable source that the flu epidemic (sometimes called Choking Sickness or Tube Neck
The Stand - complete edition, by Stephen King
excerpt, Chapter 13
Stu nodded impassively. Yet somehow he had an idea this little gnome of a man had seen past his poker face to his sudden and deep relief.
“What have the others got?”
“I’m sorry, that’s classified.”
“How did that fellow Campion get it?”
“That’s classified, too.”
“My guess is that he was in the army. And there was an accident someplace. Like what happened to those sheep in Utah thirty years ago, only a lot worse.”
The Stand - complete edition, by Stephen King
excerpt, Chapter 72
The next morning they were on the road again early, Larry’s gadget clicking off the miles as the highway switched lazily back and forth down the gentling Western Slope toward Utah. Shortly after noon they left Colorado behind them. That evening they camped west of Harley Dome, Utah. For the first time the great silence impressed then as being oppressive and malefic. Ralph Brentner went to sleep that night thinking: We’re in the West now. We’re out of our ballpark and into his.
And that night Ralph dreamed of a wolf with a single red eye that had come out of the badlands to watch them. Go away, Ralph told it. Go away, we’re not afraid. Not afraid of you.
By 2 P.M. on the afternoon of September 21, they were past Sego. The next large town, according to Stu’s pocket map, was Green River. There were no more towns after that for a long, long time. Then, as Ralph had said, they would probably find out if God was with them or not.
“Actually,” Larry said to Glen, “I’m not as worried about food as I am water. Most everyone who’s on a trip keeps a few munchies in their car, Oreos or Fig Newtons or something like that.”
Glen smiled. “Maybe the Lord will send us showers of blessing.”
Larry looked up at the cloudless blue sky and grimaced at the idea. “I sometimes think she was right off her block at the end of it.”
“Maybe she was,” Glen said mildly. “If you read your theology, you’ll find that God often chooses to speak through the dying and the insane. It even seems to me—here’s the closet Jesuit coming out—that there are good psychological reasons for it. A madman or a person on her deathbed is a human being with a drastically changed psyche. A healthy person might be apt to filter the divine message, to alter it with his or her own personality. In other words, a healthy person might make a shitty prophet.”
“The ways of God,” Larry said. “I know. We see through a glass darkly. It’s a pretty dark glass to me, all right. Why we’re walking all this way when we could have driven it in a week is beyond me. But since we’re doing a nutty thing, I guess it’s okay to do it in a nutty way.”
“What we’re doing has all sorts of historical precedent,” Glen said, “and I see some perfectly sound psychological and sociological reasons for this walk. I don’t know if they’re God’s reasons or not, but they make good sense to me.”
“Such as what?” Stu and Ralph had walked over to hear this, too.
“There were several American Indian tribes that used to make ‘having a vision’ an integral part of their manhood rite. When it was your time to become a man, you were supposed to go out into the wilderness unarmed. You were supposed to make a kill, and two songs—one about the Great Spirit and one about your own prowess as a hunter and a rider and a warrior and a fucker—and have that vision. You weren’t supposed to eat. You were supposed to get up high—mentally as well as physically—and wait for that vision to come. And eventually, of course, it would.” He chuckled. “Starvation is a great hallucinogenic.”
“You think Mother sent us out here to have visions?” Ralph asked.
“Maybe to gain strength and holiness by a purging process,” Glen said. “The casting away of things is symbolic, you know. Talismanic. When you cast away things, you’re also casting away the self-related others that are symbolically related to those things. You start a cleaning-out process. You begin to empty the vessel.”
Larry shook his head slowly. “I don’t follow that.”
“Well, take an intelligent pre-plague man. Break his TV, and what does he do at night?”
“Reads a book,” Ralph said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orem,_Utah
Orem, Utah
From Wikipedia
Orem is a city in Utah County, Utah, United States, in the north central part of the state. It is adjacent to Provo, Lindon, and Vineyard and is approximately 45 miles (72 km) south of Salt Lake City.
by me, Kerry Burgess
05/27/09 9:05 AM
That hotel I stayed at in Salt Lake City is right there off Riverside Drive.
by me, Kerry Burgess
05/27/09 9:25 AM
http://archive.deseretnews.com/archive/918394/Fast-facts-Ironman-Utah-Triathlon.html
Fast facts: Ironman Utah TriathlonPublished: Saturday, June 8, 2002 12:00 a.m. MDT
Today, 7 a.m. to midnight
www.ironmanutah.com
The Ironman triathlon is one of the most grueling sporting events.
Nearly 2,000 participants from across the United States as well as Canada and Mexico are registered to compete Saturday.
The 2002 Ironman Utah Triathlon is the first of five-year commitment for the event in the state. It is projected to have a $5 million local economic impact annually.
Athletes have 17 hours to complete the event, which begins at 7 a.m.
The Ironman Utah Triathlon is one of five such events in continental North America.
The Utah event allows for 80 qualifying spots for the Ironman Triathlon World Championship in Hawaii, including one slot in each male and female age category.
The event: A 2.4-mile swim in Utah Lake starts in deep water off the north finger of the Utah Lake Stake Park, heading out in a northwest direction and going in a counter-clockwise direction. At the end of the loop, athletes will enter the boat inlet and exit the lake on the middle boat ramp.
A 112-mile cycling segment begins as triathletes exit Utah State Park, heading east on Center Street and proceeding north to Vivian Park in Provo Canyon, to Lincoln Beach on the southeastern shores of Utah Lake and to the north end of Mona Lake before returning to Provo and the BYU campus.
A 26.2-mile marathon takes runners on loops from BYU north to Orem's Center Street, south to southern Provo and then concluding at the BYU Track and Field Complex.
From 7/31/1942 ( from Wikipedia on the internet: Driving for pleasure was banned in Britain. ) To 6/8/2002 ( ) is 21862 days
From 11/2/1965 ( my known birth date in Antlers, Oklahoma, USA, as Kerry Wayne Burgess ) To 9/10/2025 ( ) is 21862 days
Orem, Utah
From Wikipedia
At one time the area was known as Sharon, a Biblical name for a mostly level strip of land running between mountains and the sea, and the name of the Vermont birth town of Joseph Smith, founder of the Latter Day Saint movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_plain
Sharon plain
From Wikipedia
The name Sharon is derived from the Akkadian word "A-Sharanu" which literally translates to a "thick forest," which the area was until its deforestation in the late 19th century.
Before the 20th century, the region was covered by the Forest of Sharon, an open woodland dominated by Mount Tabor Oak (Quercus ithaburensis), which extended from Kfar Yona in the north to Ra’ananna in the south. The area was called al-Ghāba in Arabic, “The forest, e.g. the great Oak forest of Sharon”. The local Arab inhabitants traditionally used the area for pasture, firewood and intermittent cultivation. The deforestation of the region began during the rule of the Egyptian Ibrahim Pasha in the 19th century, who had ordered that the oaks be razed so their wood could be used for heating and construction. Later, throughout World War I, the oaks were cut off in order to provide heating for the engines of Turkish trains of the Ottoman Empire that passed by.
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